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Tourism Group Will Reach Out to W&M for Study on Competition

At Monday evening’s Williamsburg Area Destination Marketing Committee, members decided to approach William and Mary’s Mason School of Business to see if they’d be interested in working on a study about the Triangle’s tourism competitors.

The Greater Williamsburg Chamber and Tourism Alliance set aside $10,000 for such a study out of its own budget. The study would “identify actions competitors have taken, assess their impact, recommend how we can best position ourselves during the coming recovery, and recommend how we should systematically track competitor actions going forward,” according to the Alliance’s recommendation to WADMC during its November meeting.

At the November meeting, the Marketing Resource Task Force (WADMC’s marketing arm) was going to put together a request for proposals to find a group to do the study (read that story here). At Monday’s meeting, though, Alliance President Dick Schreiber suggested using the College to do the research. Most members seemed to support the idea, and they agreed the Alliance should talk to the College. They did not seem interested in doing an RFP.

The Williamsburg Area Hotel Motel Association has been pushing for a study of the Triangle tourism industry, which would include analyzing other markets. They contacted the Nichols Group, which did a similar study in 2005 that serves as a guide for the Alliance’s marketing strategy, to see if they’d be interested in doing a new study. The Alliance didn’t support such an extensive study, they told hoteliers over the summer, but they did like the idea of a study of competitors.

“Basic knowledge of our competitors is necessary,” Schreiber said in November. “We’ll determine if others have done things that we should consider doing, things we can continue to track in the future.”

At Monday night’s meeting, the marketing committee told WADMC members they had a list of about 16 destinations that they thought were competitive or comparable to the Triangle, and that to do a study on all those could cost between $50,000 and $100,000 (this was just their best guess, they said).

Everyone agreed the list was too long and needed to be whittled down, and needed to be less expensive. The marketing committee was tasked with shortening the list to a more reasonable number.

Members seemed to like Schreiber’s idea of using students at the Mason School of Business to work on the study, but HMA President Chris Canavos pointed out that the Nichols Group had offered to do a more detailed study for $30,000, less than the $50,000 or more the marketing group had guessed.

“We don’t have $30,000, Chris, we have $10,000,” said Chairman Phil Emerson. A marketing committee representative pointed out that to investigate the option of using the Nichols Group, WADMC would need to do an RFP.

“Let’s do an RFP, then,” Canavos said.

The group chose instead to start talks with the college and see if they’d be interested in taking on the project.

After the meeting, Canavos told WYDaily that the HMA wants “a group that lives and breathes this [industry] every day.” He said the firm that’s chosen to do the study should be the one to select the destinations of comparison. He also reiterated his comment that WADMC should do an RFP for the study.

“Historically, the process with WADMC is to do an RFP, like they did with the new booking engine,” Canavos said. He hopes the College would participate by joining the proposal process.

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+2 #11 Guest 2010-01-27 23:53
Rick, the problem is not,as you state, that the tourist leaders are too inept to execute the plan. The problem is that somehow the politicians in this community have become the tourist experts. Maybe you are on to something here... How about having REAL tourism professionals making decisions. My bet is that they cannot do any worse the this bunch.
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+3 #10 Guest 2010-01-27 23:43
Rick:

If you read my post in greater detail, I mentioned, " a study done by someone LIKE the Nichols group" not necessarily the Nichols Group. But since you mentioned, I will state that the leadership of the Alliance and City (CW) will gladly tell what they have done to implement suggestions of the first study. What they won't tell you are the major/critical items they have purposely chosen not to undertake. Bringing back the Nichols group in this case would just prove to be a slap in the face of our so called "leaders". Hence the reason they are going all out to prevent a study that they cannot "control".
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-3 #9 Guest 2010-01-27 22:30
Samantha - So you have the secrets to success, but you will only share them if you get paid $10,000? Is that the spirit of collaboration everyone keeps begging for? It's one thing to say something is broken, and quite another to know how to fix it.
Concerned Taxpayer - What is the fascination with the Nichols group? I keep seeing comments about them, but didn't they do a big tourism study several years ago that supposedly set the plan for the destination - and now you're complaining about the results of that plan? Why would you pay them another cent? Or do believe they created a brilliant plan, but all of the area tourism leaders are so inept they can't execute it? If that's the case, what good will another supposedly brilliant study do?
Take Back the Burg - What research or proof do you have that tourists want old-time Williamsburg "the town that time forgot"? From everything I see, the only attractions here that are growing are Busch Gardens, Water Country, Prime Outlets and Great Wolf Lodge. Could it be that visitors want modern, world-class attractions - not the attractions that time forgot? Maybe the problem is that we are still clinging to too much of the old stuff and not really embracing the new activities that draw visitors.
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+4 #8 Guest 2010-01-27 14:30
Thanks for your comments, Rick. I'd be happy to share my ideas with the WADMC. Will you be sending me the $10K or should I bill Schreiber? All I know is that the leaders who are paid the big bucks to solve our problems are clearly not getting the job done. I suspect it's because they are out of touch and quite honestly too old to relate to the younger visitors that we need to draw to our town.
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+4 #7 Guest 2010-01-27 10:49
Wadmac wants to spend 50,000 to 100,000 on a study done by students?!? Really?!?
I sense that the leadership of Wadmac, the Alliance and the City (err, I mean CW)don't want a new study done by someone like the Nichols group because they know the news would not be what they want to hear. Time for new blood in the leadership roles for this community. With all due respect to the fine MBA students at the College, this problem deserves more attention from a professional tourism consulting group rather than being a homework project.
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+5 #6 Guest 2010-01-27 10:05
I tend to agree that putting efforts into exploring our competitors is putting the horse before the cart. I believe that before we study our competitors let us better understand each other - the components that make up this destination (lodging, restaurants, attractions, Alliances etc.) We need to understand each other, our goals and motivations (revenues, occupancies, attendance etc.). We need to look in the mirror first. We can not be afraid to concede that WE are underperforming …not because of our competitors but because of ourselves.

Here in lies the conflict and altimetry the dysfunction of our destination. Lord knows lots of things have changed since the heydays of the 80’s but most significant in my mind is that we no longer TRULY “collaborate” to manage “tourism” as the economic engine that it ought to be. Sure, we give it lip service but “tourism’ honestly is treated as the redheaded step child. “Tourism” is a business and it needs to be managed by business entrepreneurs who are trained in commerce. We, collectively, need be mandated to grow “tourism” measurably as it was the mandate prior to 1990. Not solely for the business owners benefit but for the benefit of our entire community.
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0 #5 Guest 2010-01-27 10:01
If you see a pretty girl on the other side of the room. Do you look around to see what the other guys are wearing and how their hair looks? Or do you instead take a quick look in the mirror, gather up your courage and make your best move?
You may crash and burn. Then again you might just luck out and she shows a little interest, and while all of the other fellas are looking at each other, sizing one another up and wondering who's gonna make the first move. You're in the drivers seat of the convertible with the top down and the prettiest girl in town on your way to the drive-in picture show!
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+2 #4 Guest 2010-01-26 23:23
I for one think that it is not rocket science as to why people don't see the Williamsburg area as a destination anymore. It is becoming the same town the tourists come from. There was once a time when Williamsburg was a unique place, almost a "town that time forgot" and visitors truly embraced that. Now, we have exploited that resource, by polluting it with businesses that do nothing to contribute to the area, redundant businesses within a mile of each other, and very poorly thought out developmental projects. I honestly believe if we want people to start to come back to the Williamsburg area, we need to make the area different and adding Chipotles, big box stores, unsuccessful shopping centers, and over priced housing is not the answer.
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-2 #3 Guest 2010-01-26 22:20
Samantha - Can you define who Williamsburg's competitors are and by what measure do you assess they are "beating us"? You suggest that Jamestown "gets it" but they recently announced a huge drop in ticket sales again. That doesn't seem like a good model for success. And if you believe the solutions are obvious, can you please share them? What specifically needs to be done, and what result would you expect from those actions? My sense in reading this is that the WADMC leadership is open to learning from others, so if you have answers share them.
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+2 #2 Guest 2010-01-26 21:59
Well you know what they say. Those that can do and those that can't teach. Why on earth would we want to spend any amount of money for students and teachers to tell us why people go someplace else?????? The tourists used to come here in greater numbers. Now they don't. The question we need answered is how do we get them back, and that answer will not be found with a $10,000 homework project. The chamber is largely funded by taxpayer dollars. Our elected representatives need to take a look at how Schreiber is spending their money. If they care.
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