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Notification of Threats to Students Depends on Principals

Parents of James River Elementary School students were notified by the principal last week when a student was suspended for bringing a toy gun on the school bus, a sharp contrast to how parents of Toano Middle School students heard about an in-school stabbing plot that was broken up by the school resource officer.

On Friday, James River Principal Lynn Turner and Assistant Principal Mindy Thompson sent a letter to parents to let them know that a day before a student had the toy in his backpack, which was confiscated by administrators in the parking lot before the student entered the school.

In the letter, the administrators wrote, “At no time was this toy out of the backpack on the bus and it was at all times in the possession of administration in the school building.” They also reminded parents that toy weapons are not allowed at schools.

Williamsburg-James City County schools require any student in possession of a real or fake weapon receive a minimum 10-day suspension, according to WJCC spokesman Greg Davy. Davy said the student, who was not named, has been recommended for long-term suspension.

The toy gun incident comes weeks after James City County Police and the Fire Department revealed a Toano Middle School student was being detained at Merrimac Juvenile Detention Center a month after bringing a knife to school. On Feb. 9 the fire and police departments announced that on Jan. 15, a fellow Toano student told the school’s resource officer that the student, whose name has not been revealed publicly, had a knife in a school bathroom. The student turned the knife over to the officer and was suspended. Another student was implicated in the plot; both students’ discipline hearings are pending. Read more here.

At the time, some parents were shocked to find out a student had brought a knife to school on Jan. 15 and they didn’t hear about it from the administration until Feb. 9. Toano Principal Theresa Redd sent a voice mail message to parents on the day of the police department’s announcement, but parent Mark Bernecker said he would have rather heard about the event the day it occurred.

WJCC doesn’t have a set policy for notifying parents when a child brings a weapon to school. “The principal relies on his/her professional judgment to decide how to handle each case,” Davy said in an e-mail. “Each principal in the Toano and James River incidents handled the situations using their best professional judgment.”

He went on to say that principals would notify parents if they felt students’ safety could be compromised. The division does not, however, issue public statements for every incident involving a student.

“Incidents involving students occur fairly frequently throughout any school year, in varying degrees of severity,” he said. “In the vast majority of cases such as this [the toy gun], the matter can be handled internally without causing unnecessary panic or anxiety in the community.”

York County has a similar policy regarding the possession of real or fake weapons at schools, according to spokesperson Betsy Overkamp-Smith. She said the decision to notify parents is based on the specifics of each incident. “The principal works collaboratively with staff at the School Board Office to make the determination of how or when parents are notified,” she said.

“When we do notify parents of a situation, we often ask for their help in talking with their child about what should and should not be brought to school and to remind students to alert a staff member if they see that someone has brought a weapon (or a facsimile) to school,” she said in an e-mail.

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+2 #19 Guest 2010-03-03 14:12
I have some problems with this story. The story said a 'toy gun'. One of the posters said a BB gun. 'toy gun' to me means something like a cap gun or some little cheap thing done in plastic. A BB gun is not a toy gun; it is a BB gun and can cause harm to folks at whom it is pointed. A BB gun is more serious than a cap gun.

The story says the kid was recommended for 'long-term suspension'. 'long-term suspension' connotes to me more than 10 days. Is that true? 'long-term suspension' also implies to me more than a cap gun or a plastic doodad or some sort of behavioral threat.

To be honest, my kids are not in WJCC schools, so this info isn't crucial to me, but I'd like to know what the situation is. Anybody got the real truth? Did the letter home contain info not included in the story? Could somebody post the letter?
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0 #18 Guest 2010-03-03 13:16
I'm with those who think a 10 day suspension for taking a toy gun to school is likely excessive. Toy guns are inappropriate in school and a discussion with the student and parents may well have been the appropriate action. If the kid thought he was going to intimidate other students, then, more than a talking-to would be appropriate. But zero-tolerance rules are mostly a means to shift responsibility for judgment elsewhere.
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+2 #17 Guest 2010-03-03 12:30
We are sending our children mixed messages. These toy guns are sold in children's toy departments and they are allowed to play with them at home, but could end their elementary school year if they put it in their bookbag! A child learns by example and also from their mistakes. An automatic 10 day suspension or expulsion for a toy gun by a small child who has no intent of harm is punishing a child to the extreme without the child first learning from their mistake, especially when they have no idea it is a mistake. And yes, I realize that they play with other toys that they know not to bring to school, but very few will get them suspended/expel led! Judgment should always be used in each case by officials. We have to remember that these are our children and not little adults and no matter how much our world changes, they are still just children learning as they go along.
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+2 #16 Guest 2010-03-03 08:30
Some of you are jumping in without understanding what myself and a few others are saying. There's no question about the need for rules about real weapons in public places. esp in schools where teenagers can act irrationally, eg Columbine. No one is against this. The point is, like over-the-top drug laws that forever hurt good people, the gun laws have swung too far when it comes to suspending kids - 6-7 year old children - or, as citiZen pointed out - honor roll students, the kind we want in society, for mistakes we all make. Have you ever packed a liquid or, say, a fingernail file in your carry-on cargo for a flight? You terrorist! You should be suspended from all air travel and put on a "watch list." Capice?
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+2 #15 Guest 2010-03-03 08:11
[quote name="Link"]Cit iZen: In your two prior comments, you've defended the presence of real guns and steak knives on campus. This does not come across as exercising good judgment.

I most certainly did not defend the presence of weapons on school property. I stated that sometimes things happen that require a bit more finesse than a zero tolerance, lock'em up and throw away the key, mentality. Silverware locked in the trunk of a car is hardly cause for the destruction of an academic career. Certainly the kid should receive a stern warning, perhaps some loss of parking privilege for a certain time, but not an automaton draconian response. Punishment should fit the infraction. Intent matters.

As far as the child with the gun, some responders should recall that a 3rd grader does not have the cognitive development of an adult. This child was truly afraid, with good reason, that his mommy was going to be murdered by his father, so he took his father's gun away. He had a trusting relationship with the principal and went to him for help. How can one justify expelling the kid for this action? I doubt any school board debate around here would result in an expulsion, or any discipline beyond a stern warning. It is precisely this type of debate that Zero Tolerance squelches. Thus I will state again and just as emphatically, Zero Tolerance rules provide cover for cowardly and inept leadership that is too afraid to address tough issues.
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+2 #14 Guest 2010-03-03 01:33
If you ask the kids, their biggest concern in school is their safety. Guns, real or toy, should not be tolerated. The kids appreciate this policy.
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-2 #13 Guest 2010-03-02 16:00
CitiZen: In your two prior comments, you've defended the presence of real guns and steak knives on campus. This does not come across as exercising good judgment. The strength of the consequence requires that parents be attentive to what their kids are bringing to school, because the safety of all the other kids at the school depends, in part, on this. If parents are unobservant about weapons going to school, school leaders must take initiative to protect the students against these parents' irresponsibilit y. It is unfortunate that the family allowed sharp knives on the campus, but the fact is that in so doing they jeopardized kids' safety, accidentally or not. Good thing the strong response will help other families be more attentive in the future. The aim is to protect the lives and safety of children and adults, not satisfy Kafka.
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0 #12 Guest 2010-03-02 15:36
A high school honor student was expelled when he drove the family car to school, and a picnic basket was found in the trunk. In the basket were steak knives used over the past weekend. The parents had neglected to remove this from the car. Zero tolerance kicks in and the kid gets an insurmountable blotch on his permanent record.

Exercising judgment and making decisions is hard work. Zero tolerance is a tool that would make Kafka cringe. Zero tolerance makes it easy for inept and cowardly authority figures to skate by unchallenged.
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0 #11 Guest 2010-03-02 15:05
CitiZen: Thanks for sharing that story. The fact is, though, that there were plenty of alternative ways the child could have requested help for his parents, without bringing the weapon into the school. By bringing a real gun to school, he jeopardized all the kids and adults in that school. The child's actions could easily have resulted in a tragedy at the school, even if one at his home was averted. You are right to point out that zero-tolerance rules, by themselves, may not achieve the intended goal, since they kick in after the event has occurred. In the case of guns, parent and schools must also teach kids the basics of gun safety, including the essential fact that you never, ever bring toy or real guns to schools. When kids fail to learn and practice gun safety behaviors, the potential deadliness of the situation justifies a powerful consequence.
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0 #10 Guest 2010-03-02 14:45
Zero tolerance laws provide cover for cowardly and inept leadership. "Let's not hash out the particulars, just expel the kid!"

True story from a few years back -
A third grader walks into his principal's office in the morning and places a revolver on his desk. The kid says "I'm afraid daddy is going to kill mommy. Please hide this from him." The rules say expel the kid, with no leeway.
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