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Concealed Gun Permits Still Open Records

RICHMOND – You can still go to your local courthouse to see if someone has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A bill that would have prevented the public from accessing concealed handgun records and applications failed during the General Assembly’s recently completed session.

House Bill 79, sponsored by Delegate R. Lee Ware, R-Powhatan, stated that court clerks “shall withhold from public disclosure permit applications and information regarding identifiable permittees” The legislation would have made the permit information available only to law-enforcement agencies.

The House of Delegates voted 87-10 in favor of the bill. However, the proposal died in the Senate Courts of Justice Committee.

The Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun rights group, supported the proposal, saying it would protect the privacy – and possibly the lives – of concealed handgun permit owners.

Philip Van Cleave, the league’s president, said some individuals who have concealed weapons permit are hiding from violent ex-spouses or have had their lives threatened.

But Megan Rhyne, executive director of the Virginia Coalition for Open Government, said she was pleased to see HB 79 defeated.

She said it’s important for concealed weapons permits to remain open to public inspection. That way, people are able to monitor the permit process to make sure localities are processing applications properly, Rhyne said.

Reporters accessed such records in January after a man shot and killed eight people in Appomattox County. Local newspapers reviewed concealed weapons applications and found that the suspect, Christopher Speight, a 39-year-old security guard, had a permit to carry a concealed firearm.

“Access to these records is not just about finding out who has a permit and whether those people should have a permit, but it is important,” Rhyne said.

Also, because the records are public, it is possible to contact permit holders about educational, marketing or recreational opportunities.
Until 2007, Virginia had a centralized database that citizens could use to look up concealed weapons permits. The information now is available only at the courthouse for a particular county or city.

Van Cleave and Rhyne agree that someone’s life may be put in jeopardy by someone gaining access to a permit application.

However, Rhyne said the same problem can arise with information contained on any public record and information published on the Internet.

“The solution is to employ law enforcement and the court system to punish people who make threats or attempt violence against others – not to close off access to public records,” Rhyne said.

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+2 #5 Guest 2010-03-29 11:05
1 - The tactics used by the Senate were against their own rules and exhibited poor form. I doubt any House or Senate sub-committee should have such broad power

2 - Public access to concealed carry permit records is foolish. You should not publish the information of someone that hasn't committed a crime. Also I would suggest that small claims court and traffic violations not be publicly available. There is no legitimate need for this information to be widely available to the public.

3- @ Catherine Toohey: Why do you think someone is a coward for not wanting the fact that they have a concealed carry permit published? Conceal means to keep from "being seen, observed or discovery." It seems obtuse to call someone that doesn't want their personal business published for the world to see a coward. Some people just like to keep their business to themselves.
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-5 #4 Guest 2010-03-28 20:06
well, H. Barton, I agree that the subcommittee approach is not the most honorable approach, but then it is the same approach that the House of Delegates used to kill such common-sense proposals as non-partisan redistricting.

I may not be understanding something here, but the idea that folks who want to carry concealed are afraid to have their applications public info? That seems really cowardly to me.
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+1 #3 Tomahawk 2010-03-28 15:51
When will Ms. Rhyne be publishing a list of all of the criminals that own and are carrying guns?
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+3 #2 Guest 2010-03-28 13:20
A person has a right to carry a concealed weapon if he so choses but no authority has a right to access that information. It must be kept private in order to protect the person who has that permit. It should be accessible only to police authority. If the measure failed this time it should be brought up again and again until it becomes law.
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+1 #1 Guest 2010-03-28 10:36
The issue that your readers need to be informed on and clearly understand is not that HB79, and several other gun rights bills, were defeated in the Senate but how they were defeated. These bills were never voted on by the full Senate because the Majority Democratic Leadership of the Senate formed a "new" sub-committee stacked with a super majority of anti-gun rights senators. Their 4 to 1 presence ensured that these measures would die in their sub-committee. If you agree with this type of parliamentary control over the will of the people then do not complain when it is applied to a future bill you think is significant. Is this how you want your government to operate?
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