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York Rejects Plan to Cede Local Wetlands Decisions

A plan to save York County around $12,000 a year while turning over the work of an all-volunteer local wetlands board to a state agency failed last night, as citizens packed the Board of Supervisors meeting for a public hearing on the issue.

On the table was a proposal by Vice Chairman George Hrichak to eliminate the York County Wetlands Board, a five-member advisory group that is a waterfront property owner’s first stop when considering any work within the watershed.

Supervisors rejected the proposal 4-1. Had it passed, York County would have been the only locality in the state that had ceded local involvement in wetlands issues.

Walt Zaremba, who acknowledged being considered the “swing vote,” said after hearing the citizens’ defense of the board, “I don't understand how any member of this board could vote anything but no on this amendment.”

Just one – Hrichak – did. Hrichak said he started looking at the necessity of the wetlands board last year during budget discussions, going through documents after “lots of people” complained about the local wetlands process. Hrichak said the county has to consider the value of every line item in its budget, a $125 million spending plan. “I think it is something we can live without,” he said.

Citizen after citizen – including marine scientists and contractors – disagreed. Many shared anecdotes, explaining why county residents shouldn’t live without a local wetlands board. For most, it was an issue tied to both time and keeping local people involved in local issues. The local decisions, they pointed out, have been overturned just four times of 193 recent cases.

The Virginia Marine Resources Commission, which is the next stop for watershed permitting, has one employee who covers 27 jurisdictions – including the southwestern part of the state. The VMRC has an obligation to follow deadlines, but citizens lined up to say those deadlines were impractical and not often followed.

The effort to disband the wetlands board got a push from local Realtor Greg Garrett, who sent an email urging county conservatives to attend the hearing and speak out against “what every conservative should hate.” On that list was big government that resulted in too many layers, an abridgement of private property owner rights, government waste and unnecessary delays. Garrett, a waterfront property owner of a multimillion-dollar property, said in the email that the wetlands board “has constantly and unnecessarily punished our waterfront homeowners and is unneeded to clean up the Bay.”

Garrett also spoke at the hearing, saying he thought many were confused about what was on the table and calling the current process "a bureaucracy - an incredible, out of control bureaucracy."

Garrett’s neighbor Tim McCulloch, who owns several Dandy properties including his own multimillion-dollar waterfront parcel, disagreed. All of his many dealings with the wetlands board and staff had been “professional and courteous.” McCulloch acknowledged that the board had sometimes asked him to do things that were more costly or different from what he’d planned, but said, “You win or lose by the rules. If there’s a problem, it’s with the rules, not the boards.”

McCulloch said the move to disband the wetlands board was the work of a few people who were “very good at bullying public servants.”

Board Chairman Don Wiggins, who seemed to favor disbanding the wetlands board, spoke emotionally about the number of waterfront property owners who have come to him in the past three years with concerns about how the board operated. He talked about “people who are all to pieces over a small piece of driveway,” but don’t have the savvy to navigate the process or funds to hire a contractor who does.

In voting against eliminating the board, however, Wiggins pledged to do what it takes to improve the board and the experience the county’s many waterfront property owners have when taking their issues to that board.

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+3 #16 Guest 2010-06-17 12:25
Ref YC: in that case, if you're not a published author - for money, as a profession - don't write your comments.

See how shallow that thinking is? We're in this together, to find solutions that are fair for gun control, animal care, boat ownership and the waterfront.
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+4 #15 Guest 2010-06-17 12:19
York Citizen is all wet! So all he can do is rant and say "just you wait" ?!? Ha ha ha ha! What is he threatening - that waterfront owners will use their behind-the-scen es-powers to give themselves all the control?!? I think that captures perfectly the attitude of some waterfront owners and why they SHOULD NOT exclusively sit on the future waterfront board. York is filled with intelligent, savvy people so I'm confident the good people of York will not allow this to ever happen.
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-7 #14 Guest 2010-06-17 10:46
Some of these comments defy logic. I know most of you, per the thumbs up/down, will be happy to know that this will be my last comment on this subject. The Wetlands board WILL BE made up of waterfront owners...it only makes sense. Using logic and reason, don't talk to me about owning a horse if you've never owned one. Don't talk to me about boat ownership or maintaining one if you've never owned one. Say nothing about firing a gun if you've never fired one. Don't talk to me about living on the water, if you've never done so. And darn sure don't tell anyone else what they should or should not do with respect to it either. Sure, you may care about horses, you may love boats and you may be the biggest supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but you don't know what you don't know if you haven't experienced any of the above. The Wetlands Board will be property owners who live on the water and all you'll have to do is look it up when it happens and remember what I've said.
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0 #13 Guest 2010-06-17 08:37
Ref York Citizen's claim that only waterfront property owners can fully understand the issues: To that extent, only Blacks can fully understand racial issues, only gays can know about hate crimes, and you have to be female to appreciate inequality. While this is true, you don't have to be any of those to see what the problem is and make changes for the better. It was because we came to together - men, women, Blacks, Whites, gays - and forced Civil Rights during the 1960's and 70's. Weren't you there? It's the same for the waterfront board. Every thinking person brings something valuable to the table- except for certain waterfront property owners who are emotionally incontinent and come across as fatuous little suppositories.
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-5 #12 Guest 2010-06-17 08:09
Dear Waterfront Owner,
I believe that it is you who is making my point. You said, "People with waterfront property do not have professional expertise on wetlands ecosystems." Are you saying that those who don't live on the water do? Use logic and reason, please. You are also implying that people who live on the water have no concern or don't care about the waterways and the Bay. I would say by their very ownership of waterfront property, they care and they should be the ones protecting it. The structure of the Wetlands Board will change, I promise that and we will see who is correct in this matter when a new board is in place. Currently, not one single person on the board lives on the water. I don't know about you, but I feel very confident that the makeup of the Board will change and will do so the way I said it should.
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+6 #11 Guest 2010-06-17 06:47
York Citizen: You continue to be seriously wrong because the examples you give are fundamentally incorrect comparisons. Yorktown Village is a very limited zone and you are talking about static architecture designs not a dynamic ecosystem. What is done to the waterfront affects the entire township as well as other townships and the river and the Bay at large. People with waterfront property do not have professional expertise on wetlands ecosystems, Chesapeake Bay ecology, and the ways in which human activities impact sustainable maritime economic activities. They are simply homeowners, with experience in only one tiny facet of the bigger, more complex issue of waterfront development.

It is disturbing that you fail to understand this. Your incorrect and dangerous opinion shows exactly why a wetlands board needs to include people with expertise beyond being a mere waterfront homeowner. Left to folks with your hubris, the Bay would surely be in jeopardy. Thanks for so clearly making this point!
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-6 #10 Guest 2010-06-16 23:08
With all due respect Waterfront Owner, things like this should be peer reviewed. I want qualified doctors reviewing other doctors. I want qualified pilot instructors reviewing other pilots. I want qualified scientists peer reviewing other scientists...et c. The Yorktown Historic Design Committee is made up of, well, you guessed it, people who actually live in Yorktown Village. Your opinion is just that...yours.
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+9 #9 Guest 2010-06-16 18:24
York Citizen: You are wrong. Healthy boards are never comprised of only one interest group. "My Opinion" is correct to say that the board should reflect a mix of waterfront owners, as well as those York citizens who don't own waterfront land but have an interest in the safeguarding the waterfront overall. With a board that brings both together, York wins. York doesn't want any type of municipal board to become an insiders-club-m embers-only affair.
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+10 #8 Guest 2010-06-16 14:02
Never never ever let vampire real estate companies even close to the wetlands protection process. Beware!
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-11 #7 Guest 2010-06-16 13:17
To "My Opinion",
Are you serious? Yes, they should all be waterfront property owners. Who else knows issues of the waterfront better? Are you suggesting that waterfront property owners can't follow the rules, laws and guidelines set forth in the Wetland Board's charter? Are you suggesting that waterfront property owners will look out for other waterfront property owners? Did you attend last night's meeting? Did you hear opposing waterfront property owner's opinions? That's not what happens in these committees...it 's not a bunch of I'll scratch your back if your scratch mine. Waterfront property owners have, 1. the experience of living on the water, 2. know what headaches of their own that they have experienced, 3. understand what it's going to take to correct, add or fix any issue that comes before them. Your comment is utterly ridiculous and I can't believe that I spent the time responding to such an asinine statement.
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