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Two Perspectives In the Argument Over Grove

Is the Grove community being neglected by James City County?

County resident Edith Heard believes it is, and is ready to take her complaint on behalf of the residents to the Department of Justice in order to give residents a stronger voice. Roberts District Supervisor Bruce Goodson, who has represented the Grove area since he was elected in 1999, says he’s done all he can to advocate for the community.

The question of Grove citizens’ representation became a divisive issue during James City County’s nearly complete redistricting process. Citizen redistricting committee member Debbie Kratter created two map options that attempted to put Grove in a district to link it with more racially and socio-economically similar parts of the county. Kratter argued that the Kingmill community drowned out the voice of Grove citizens. Grove residents’ voting strength is diluted, she said, as is their representation by their supervisor.

Kratter couldn’t create a true majority/minority district in the county. Legally such a district can only consider race and not income, plus there's an insufficient concentration of African Americans to make such a district. Goodson said he asked citizen committee Chairman Jeff Ryer to try to create a majority/minority district with Grove in mind, but it couldn’t be done.

What’s left now that a different Roberts district isn’t likely to be chosen by the Board is a host of unhappy Grove residents who have signed a petition arguing that their community has been neglected. Heard, who is not a Grove resident but has close ties to the community and votes in the Roberts District, says her petition with about 500 signatures on it will go on to the Department of Justice. The department needs to approve the county’s redistricting to ensure, among other things, that the minority vote hasn’t been intentionally diluted.

“I have been angry from day one when [the county] blended Grove with the Roberts [district], which diluted the vote,” says Heard, who worked to organize a union for Colonial Williamsburg workers in the 1970s and 80s. “This time, you see them diluting the vote even more by adding more areas and neighborhoods [to Roberts].”

The County “has turned a blind and deaf eye to this community,” she says. “All people [in Grove] want is someone to look out for them. I talked to Goodson. He is not interested in helping.”

Some of the community issues that haven’t been addressed include sidewalks that haven’t been completed and an insufficient number of fire hydrants, according to Heard. There are also many properties with abandoned cars in their yards and other signs of neglect. The community would like a playround for children, too, according to the petition. Heard says she has asked the county for help with these issues, but has gotten none.

The county has been making an effort to put businesses in Grove over the years, such as the Walmart distribution center and an assisted living facility. This highlights how the county thinks about Grove, according to Heard. “We had a vibrant community, and now all I see is big business coming in… so much that we had to get an interstate bypass. It’s like they completely forgot or don’t care about the community.”

As for Goodson specifically, Heard highlights his appointment of Hampton resident Rev. William Dawson to the Community Action Agency Board. Local CAAs are meant to fight poverty in low-income communities. Dawson doesn’t live in the area, so when Goodson appointed him to the agency’s board recently, it “proves he doesn’t make the best decisions for Grove.”

Goodson sees things very differently than Heard.

He feels it’s a good idea to keep the communities of Kingsmill, where Goodson lives, in the same district as Grove, which is next door. “They have a lot in common,” Goodson says. “The kids go to the same school, and the people live in the same area of the county – just look at the [recent] tornado, which affected both Kingsmill and Grove. Compactness [of a district] is so important.”

He talked to Heard about redistricting, and told her he’d tried to create a majority/minority district.

Goodson is in the Grove community often, he says. “When I hear from citizens, I act on it. Just because I don’t live there, doesn’t mean I don’t think about those residents.”

When he first took office, the community had no sidewalks. Goodson said he worked to get them installed, but some residents wouldn’t allow sidewalks to be built on their property, even though he knocked on those residents’ doors and asked them to help.

Goodson considers the overpass project in Grove an important part of his contribution to the area. “VDOT was talking about widening Route 60 to four lanes when I was elected. It would have ruined the character of Grove,” he says.

The road widening would have meant demolishing up to 35 homes, he says. “I have worked since elected to solve the truck traffic issue in Grove while saving the folks from losing their homes or front yards to a large highway project.”

This week, the Hampton Roads Transportation Planning Organzation committed $10 million to help with the construction of the Skiffes Creek connector in Grove, which will connect Route 143 and Interstate 64 and eliminate the need for road widening in the community. Goodson counts this as a success.

He has heard complaints from residents about trash dumping and abandoned cars. The complaints haven’t fallen on deaf ears, he says, but the county is limited on what it can do regarding these issues on private property.

Goodson says he wants to see the petition, which Heard says she’ll send to the Board soon. “I want to address what needs to be addressed. If anyone contacts me in the district, I react.”

As for the sense that Grove’s vote is diluted, Goodson says, “Until about 20 years ago, Grove was a main political spot in the county historically. Now Grove still has the same amount of people, it hasn’t grown, and it doesn’t have the same clout.”

The Roberts District was created to have representation for the African American population in the area, “but the county’s population has grown and shifted, and we can’t achieve a solution” that would give Grove the same voice it once had.

There is one thing Goodson and Heard agree on, which is that members of the community are less involved in the community and in politics than they once were.

“It was a cohesive community in Grove years ago,” Goodson says. “It’s not so much now, it seems. Maybe the young people just aren’t as interested… there needs to be a commitment to the community coming together again and becoming active.”

Heard agrees. “The younger people, they don’t step up. Others are older. There needs to be a [community] voice now.”

When Martin Luther King, Jr., came to Williamsburg decades ago, Heard says she had a chance to ask him how to instill in people the desire to fight for their rights and needs. “He told me the world was one great big piece of cheese – you just can’t eat it all. You take your piece and chew it well. That’s what I’m doing. I’m chewing it well.” She hopes the Grove community will do the same.

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+4 #11 Guest 2011-04-26 17:54
Quoting Mike D:


I live in York County, when Isabel destroyed most of the Peninsula a few years ago my family was without power for 3 weeks. My father who works an average of 60-80 hours a week on his business found time to clean up our house. I work 2 jobs as well.. found time. We didn't complain when the government didn't send men with equipment to clean up! We got together with our neighbors and cleaned up ourselves. Get over yourself. Believe it or not you do still have some responsibility in your life the you haven't convinced the government to take it all yet.


Sorry to hear about you being without power and the disaster that your family too has faced. I don't wish that on anyone. As you mentioned, I have responsibility as you do as well. I got out and cleaned up my yard and my family was present to help clean up on the community day as well. Another responsibility that I have, is to make sure that my kids and my family gets treated fairly. No one in Grove that I know of, wants a hand out. We do however, want to be treated on the same level as everyone else who lives in JCC and the US for that matter. We want a voice, we want to be heard. We don't want to be overlooked, who does?
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+8 #10 Guest 2011-04-26 16:03
The Grove community is an amazing place filled with MANY people who care, and care deeply for their community and for the precious individuals who live there. I challenge those who have negative things to say to take a moment to come out and visit this community. The same community that makes meals for one another when people are sick, the same community that visits eachother in the hospital when they have surgery, the same community who passes on their baby clothes when one of their neighbors is exspecting. I have seen first hand this community rally in the face of death, sickness, tragedy, fire, and now disaster and I have to tell you I have never seen a more loving, accepting, non judgemental " family" in all my life. This community also rejoices together when things are accomplished.On es yards do not determine their charecter many would be better off mirroring the heart of this community rather than ridiculing its cosmetic apperance. The county needs to take notice of the heart of this community and give them a voice.
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+3 #9 Guest 2011-04-26 14:35
[quote name="Grove Resident"]What has JCC and Goodson done? All if not majority of the clean up efforts were started by community members.quote]

I live in York County, when Isabel destroyed most of the Peninsula a few years ago my family was without power for 3 weeks. My father who works an average of 60-80 hours a week on his business found time to clean up our house. I work 2 jobs as well.. found time. We didn't complain when the government didn't send men with equipment to clean up! We got together with our neighbors and cleaned up ourselves. Get over yourself. Believe it or not you do still have some responsibility in your life the you haven't convinced the government to take it all yet.
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+15 #8 Guest 2011-04-26 12:51
Unfortunately, you must not have heard that there was a community clean up day this past weekend. There are some in Grove who do care about the image of Grove and just like in almost every other neighborhood, there are some who could care less about the image.
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+22 #7 Guest 2011-04-26 10:09
@Burger Thanks for lumping all of Grove residents together. There are many residents who do care about their homes, their neighbors, and their community. We would like county support in enforcing regulations that are supposed to prevent people from keeping trash and junk cars on their property. Wouldn't you?
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+12 #6 Guest 2011-04-26 09:45
"It took a major storm to show how/what JCC does to support the community of Grove. What has JCC and Goodson done?"

In referece to comments like this....we live in another area in JCC and had major storm damage during Hurricane Isabel, and the tornado that passed through, a few years back, near longhill rd. The county did not step in and help out, physically or finacially, nor did I expect them too. Friends and family came to help us with the major damage and mess we had! We chopped wood, hundreds of trees, fixed playsets, homes, etc. It takes a community to help, not the Gov't. We had insurance, and it also took a lot of hard earned money from our own pockets. We did not once blame WJCC or anyone else! I wish people would stop looking for a hand out and try helping themselves as a community. By the way, we have donated plenty of items and food to the Grove out reach after this storm as well! I hope they are putting it to good use.
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+5 #5 Guest 2011-04-26 08:46
You cannot help those who will do nothing to help themselves.

mts is right.
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0 #4 Guest 2011-04-26 08:17
All things happen for a reason, we may not understand it right now, but we will understand it better by and by. I am one of the many that had house damage during recent storm, but have come to the conclusion that things are about to change in James City County, for the better! It took a major storm to show how/what JCC does to support the community of Grove. What has JCC and Goodson done? All if not majority of the clean up efforts were started by community members. I work 2 jobs, so hopefully I am just not aware of what the county is doing to aid, but then again, am I the only one not aware of what the county is doing?? Like other areas hit, will JCC be sending around crews to pickup tree limbs from side of road or anything like that?

It's time for a change!
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+8 #3 Guest 2011-04-26 07:59
the folks of Grove should show interest in their neighborhood before the county should. Have you ever been to grove? They obviuosly don't care about their community. They don't try to keep their homes or yards neat. The good citizens of Grove should take the first step in showing pride in their community before my tax dollars does anything. The county can then take the second step.
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+3 #2 Guest 2011-04-26 07:59
"The county has been making an effort to put businesses in Grove over the years, such as the Walmart distribution center and an assisted living facility. This highlights how the county thinks about Grove"

Apparently the county thinks that Grove is a good place for the big businesses. Also, they seem to think that the tax revenue is valuable to JCC and isn't worth losing to York County.

What insanity is this? Why are they trying to bring jobs and income to the county? Why are they destroying this "vibrant" community by enhancing the local economy?
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