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Parents, Students Tell York SB to Ditch 4X4 Schedule

York County parents and students voiced their disapproval of a hybrid 4X4 high school schedule at Monday’s School Board meeting.

Twenty-four speakers described scheduling snafus, declining grade point averages and trouble keeping up with classwork. The school division implemented a new schedule in three of its five high schools – York, Bruton and York River Academy – at the start of the school year.

Under the new schedule, students take eight classes a year. Some classes, called the 4X4 classes, meet every day for a semester. But other classes, such as Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate, meet every other day for the entire school year.

The administration first proposed implementing a hybrid 4X4 schedule in all five high schools in September 2010. But parents and teachers at Grafton and Tabb lobbied to be left out of the program for its planned two-year implementation period.

Administrators believe the schedule gives students more options, not only to repeat failed classes, but to take more electives. Teachers also have a chance to see their students every day.

But the 24 speakers said the schedule is not working for York County. Parents have circulated an online petition to switch back to the old seven-course-a-day schedule, with classes alternating every day. As of Tuesday afternoon, the petition had 486 signatures.

During the citizen comment period, students described problems with the implementation of the new schedule, particularly scheduling challenges. Freshman Dominique Rainey said she was assigned to a drama class that meets every day for the semester, but is joined every other day by students who will take the same course for the full year. As a result, the teacher has to spend part of every other class teaching the previous day’s lesson, and Rainey hears it twice.

She also said most of her first semester was spent in electives, but her spring will be spent in core classes. “I haven’t had math or English since last year,” she said. Her concerns were echoed by sophomore Kate Jacoby, who said her schedule for the next semester is so rigorous, she decided not to play softball in order to focus on homework.

Several parents and students said the pace of the 4X4 classes, which complete a year’s work in a semester, was too fast. Jennifer LeCount, a York parent who teaches English at Menchville High School in Newport News, said the schedule “forces students to cram, not to learn.” She told the board that parents in Albemarle County, where a similar schedule is in place, have dubbed it the “Frankenschedule” because “it’s an experiment that produces a monster.”

Lisa Gilson told the board she fell behind on her classes when she suffered an injury. She was able to receive home-based instruction, but said it took her almost to the end of the semester to catch up in her 4X4 classes, and she received a B in English. “This schedule will hurt our opportunities to get merit scholarships,” she said.

Although parents say the classes are moving too fast, they also note the courses aren’t covering as much material as the year-round classes. Samantha Abbott, whose son attends York High, said his math analysis class reached chapter six out of 11 chapters in their textbook; the year-round class has reached chapter five, which indicates they’ll finish the book by the end of the year, she said.

Julie Reichle served on one of the implementation committees that met last year to plan the schedule change. She said the members were told there would be additional training for teachers and that electives would be added to the schedule, but only one – guitar – was added. She is also concerned that teachers are too afraid for their jobs to speak up about problems with the schedule.

On Tuesday, she told WY Daily, “We need transparency between the school board, the school administration, the parents, the teachers and the students. All students in York County have the right to receive the same opportunities.”

Her husband, Scott, told the board it should seek input from teachers, anonymously, at the end of the year to find out how they really felt. He encouraged board members to drop by schools and see for themselves whether the schedule seems to be working.

At the end of the meeting, new board member Cindy Kirschke said the 4X4 implementation was part of her motivation to run for school board. Her son attends Grafton High School, and she told the audience she hopes he will not have to learn under the new schedule. She also asked that results from the Standards of Learning tests administered in the first semester be made public.

For more information about the hybrid schedule and its implementation, click here.

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0 #21 confused 2012-01-30 22:38
I just want to know if this was a so great schedule , then why aren't all York county schools doing it.
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0 #20 Teacher 2012-01-30 07:12
I am not certain how anyone can make a sound judgement about this topic, whether for or against it. Any type of change requires an adjustment period and seeing as how we only just finished the first semester, I would say that we should at least give it until the end of the year before we begin to even discuss it.

Grades have not even been posted yet, so saying grade point averages are lower is not even based on any statistical data and instead based on a few students who are perhaps struggling to keep up. On the topic of homework, I'm not sure why students are saying they have more. In fact, they have fewer classes at a time to be concerned about and all of my coworkers are assigning the same amount that they would on A/B. I have found no problems keeping up with curriculum and have actually appreciated the fact that my students have retained more! Seeing them everyday has been a blessing!

These are my observations based on one semester and I am anxious to see how my students perform this semester now that they have adjusted to the 4x4. I am not for or against the schedule at this time and will save my judgements until the end of the year when we can truly look at performance levels. In the meantime, lets focus on the more important topics like the budget. It will not matter what schedule we have if we are forced to cut teachers out of our schools! This is what we all need to be lobbying for!
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+1 #19 akidwhogoes2school 2012-01-27 18:25
I don't think "a student" was speaking as for all of us students, but I can say that I do agree with what a student said about if electives were 4x4 and we had our core classes a b schedule so it'll give us more time to study and stuff. O.o
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0 #18 teacher and parent 2012-01-26 20:13
To "a student", you first might want to check your grammar and spelling before posting. Secondly, not all students hate the 4x4. My children do not hate it, but they don't have a true 4x4. Some classes are year long and some aren't. They fortunately don't have any gaps in their language arts or math classes. It was stated that many of the issues would have to be worked out, so new ideas have to be given time to work.
To all parents...it won't matter what schedule the students are on if we don't have enough teachers to teach. The staffing cuts that will be made next year with or without the monies requested from the York County Board of Supervisors will be dozens and the effect will be widespread. The funding is desperately needed to keep teachers. Right now the county is looking at possibly having 30 students in elementary classrooms. At the high school level this will mean even less electives and over 30 students per class and classes not being offered. The issue begins at the state level and trickles down to the Board of Supervisors. The School Board is looking at all possible cuts, but no matter what, teachers will lose their jobs. Please contact your state representatives and your Board of Supervisors and ask them to make more funds available. The officials are always afraid to raise taxes for fear people won't vote for them, but they instead should be afraid of not providing services for their constituents. York County's reputation of having a great school division is at stake as are our property values. No one is going to move to York County if they know class sizes are 30 and over. Please make your voices heard as loudly about the need for more funds to keep teacher jobs as you are about the 4x4 schedule.
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+1 #17 A teacher 2012-01-26 10:29
The students who are commenting that they are passing by doing homework need to understand that doing homework can be a great route to passing a class, because homework is designed to reinforce what is taught in class. So, using that as an excuse why the 4X4 schedule is a bad idea is not logical. Students should be doing homework and taht homework should support what they are learning in class no matter what schedule the school uses.

Also, at Bruton High School, homework usually accounts for 10% of a student's grade, so there is actually no way a student can pass solely on completing homework.

I am happy to see and hear the discussions that are going on regarding this schedule, but I am disappointed when commentors argue that the schedule makes the classes "too hard" for students. We need our students to be challenged in the classroom. Sometimes, students who are challenged give up - it's not that the material or work is too hard for them, it's that they aren't used to be challenged. Being challenged is a good thing. That is how one learns.

Your student might be getting a B where they usually got an A. This doesn't mean that less learning is taking place. We need to place our focus on learning, not on grades, and rely on the learning to translate into skills that students can use in the real world.
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+2 #16 Henry David T. 2012-01-26 10:17
Well, there you go: "from the mouths of babes..."
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+4 #15 A student 2012-01-25 23:39
I am a student who attends one of the schools that is on this 4x4day schedule and a majority ofus THE STUDENTS HATE IT!!!! ITS LIKE THE COUNTY PEOPLE WHO DID THIS DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT WHAT WE THINK AND WERE THE ONES GOING THROUGH IT NOT YOU ADULTS.. they seem like if they cared what we thought they would have made us take a poll or something a couple weeks ago or next week when the second semester starts up. THIS SCHEDULE WOULD BE GOOD FOR JUST ELECTIVE CLASSES (chorus, band,art) BUT FOR CORE CLASSES NEED TO BE YEAR LONG (math,English, science,history ) . A lot of us DON'T understand the material and the only way we pass is by doing homework and what are we to do when we get to college??? Sit there and look stupid??? I UNDERSTAND ITS LIKE COLLEGE BUT COLLEGE COURSES ARE DESIGNED FOR A SEMESTER LONG WHEN Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO SHOVE A WHOLE YEAR IN ONE SEMESTER AND GOING SO FAST NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT but I guess y'all will see when the SOLS COME BACK. Making us take the math sol then not even have the scores back in time so we have to take the exam -_______- but yeah,,
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+1 #14 wjcc parent 2012-01-25 22:41
The reason why schools adopt 4x4 is to save money. WJCC schools have adopted 4x4 and it's not pretty. Saving money there means spending more in remediation. Not the wisest investment in the long run.
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+5 #13 A student 2012-01-25 22:28
I am a student that attends one of the high schools that's on the 4x4 schedule and I can say I hate this schedule. A majority of us don't understand the material and the only way we pass is by doing homework. The classes are too fast and I don't think the county representatives really are concerned what we think because they have yet to ask us as a whole (meaning the students) about how we like or dislike the schedule. It would be fine if our electives were 4x4going and core classes were year long but this new thong isn't working. Hopefully we can go back to the original a b schedule because this new one ain't cuttin it.
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+7 #12 ?????? 2012-01-25 14:46
Quoting time for a change:
I agree that the hybrid 4x4 hybrid implementation is a pet project of Dr. Williams and it is suspicious that his chid's school was protected from the initial roll out.

I would like to add that all but one of our School Board Members voted (4-1) to approve this new schedule. Robert George was the only board member to vote against it.

Cindy Kirschke appears to have the foresight and critical thinking skills needed to make her a productive addition to the team.

Perhaps residents should seriously consider the people they have voted into our current School Board positions.


I am seriously considering the way I vote and so should others. Mark Medford, District #3, has done nothing for District #3 and seems afraid to take action or make decisions. Unfortunately, Mark Medford has been unopposed and that is why he is serving District #3. I applaud Cindy Kirschke and Dr. George for standing up for our kids and knowing what is best for them. They truly have our kids "back"!
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